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Camber problem

Post by Austin » Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:22 pm

Although not strictly a wheel/tyres question does anyone have a picture of how the camber bolt is inserted in their suspension?

I've now gone through two front left tyres as the outedge has worn down significantly, and I'm not buying any more rubber, the lastest tyre has only done 2k!


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Re: Camber problem

Post by steve » Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:49 pm

I just used a big set square and trial and errored mine.

Park it on a flat yard. Put the square up against the face of the wheel, see how far it's out, then whip the wheel off, mark where the camber was, undo the camber bolt, adjust, stick it back together and try again.

If you're still not sure, take iot to a tyre place that does a free check and they'll tell you exactly how far out it is.


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Re: Camber problem

Post by Nate » Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:18 am

Austin wrote:I've now gone through two front left tyres as the outedge has worn down significantly
the most common cause of a tyre wearing on the outside edge would be too much toe in.

however, if you're wanting to have a crack at adjusting your camber correctly: http://www.bennetts.com/steering-suspen ... 658694.php


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Re: Camber problem

Post by Austin » Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:44 pm

Nate wrote:
Austin wrote:I've now gone through two front left tyres as the outedge has worn down significantly
the most common cause of a tyre wearing on the outside edge would be too much toe in.

however, if you're wanting to have a crack at adjusting your camber correctly: http://www.bennetts.com/steering-suspen ... 658694.php
Hi thanks, but linky is incomplete!


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Re: Camber problem

Post by Old Mac Rocco » Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:05 pm

Think this may be the link that Nate was looking for (slip of the mouse somewhere).
http://www.bennetts.com/steering-suspen ... 658694.php
Worth a look if you want to do the job yourself.


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Re: Camber problem

Post by steve » Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:49 pm

I've never figured out how they work, if you've got the wheel off, the suspension must be unloaded, so how's that a fair reading?


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Re: Camber problem

Post by Village Idiots » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:54 am

Load the suspension with a jack under the ball joint.



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Re: Camber problem

Post by Nate » Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:21 pm

no idea what happened to that link i posted, but yes that's the page i meant. no idea how to use them, as i never have, but i imagine they'd come with distructions


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Re: Camber problem

Post by Jay4424 » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:59 am

Best thing is go to a proper tire place that sets up tracking properly!

...should have 0.5 degrees toe out and 0.5 degree positive caster (tops in) as far as I know.


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Re: Camber problem

Post by Nate » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:44 am

Jay4424 wrote:B 0.5 degree positive caster (tops in)
did you mean caster? +ve caster would be "tops back" (wheel in front of the pivot axis) and +ve camber is "tops in"


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Re: Camber problem

Post by Jay4424 » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:47 pm

Nate wrote:
Jay4424 wrote:B 0.5 degree positive caster (tops in)
did you mean caster? +ve caster would be "tops back" (wheel in front of the pivot axis) and +ve camber is "tops in"

yeah summit like that :chortle:
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Re: Camber problem

Post by PeteGLi » Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:43 pm

Austin wrote:Although not strictly a wheel/tyres question does anyone have a picture of how the camber bolt is inserted in their suspension?
Do you mean a picture of how the eccentric bolt and washer looks when it is inserted through the strut?
steve wrote:I've never figured out how they work, if you've got the wheel off, the suspension must be unloaded, so how's that a fair reading?
I would imagine you use it to measure the angle/position of the wheel, before you disturb any of the strut mounting/fixing bolts, so you can put a strut back in the same position as before you took it off.



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Re: Camber problem

Post by fonzooorooo » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:35 pm

The magnetic camber gauge is very good, but a pain to use - you really need to measure the hub centre and ride height, then replicate both with the wheel off (I jacked under the outside edge of the hub) Jacking under the balljoint (or suspension arm) gives the suspension more leverage, so increases the ride height, so any measurement taken will be wrong. The other trick would be to either use spokey wheels, or bore a big hole in an old steelie so you can stick the gauge on through the wheel. Just a thought.



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Re: Camber problem

Post by Beddo88 » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:20 pm

Are you running standard suspension? Mines not (lowered) and it throws out everything.

Much tinkering later, and its still out, but not as much! As these chaps have said, its well worth getting it setup properly.

Not trying to hi-jack but... my cambers as far out adjusted as it can be, and my tyre is only about 10mm from my coilies... is there any method of adjusting it further without getting wheel spacers etc? not too keen on them.


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Re: Camber problem

Post by Nate » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:24 am

Beddo88 wrote: my cambers as far out adjusted as it can be, and my tyre is only about 10mm from my coilies... is there any method of adjusting it further without getting wheel spacers etc? not too keen on them.
10mm should be plenty of clearance, i'd have thought. are you having problems with it fouling?


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