MK1 Storm Passes MOT.. but....

Scirocco Register members projects

Moderator: Scirocco Register

Forum rules
Section for all vehicle and related projects. Please keep responses pertinent to thread.
hermmy
Posts: 67
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:20 pm
fill in the right answer: 15

MK1 Storm Passes MOT.. but....

Post by hermmy » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:48 pm

So picked up my MK1 Storm last Wednesday after it being garaged for 4 years. Managed to get her started on Thursday after some fiddling though stunk of old fuel, has been starting no problem over the weekend and have been taking it around the estate just to burn off the old fuel before todays MOT. Well the great news is she passed (somewhat surprised) with three advisories; :pilot:

1) rear wheel bearing has slight play
2) brake pipe slightly corroded rear
3) nearside front outer sill slightly corroded.

So went down all happy to pick her up and got there to see he was having trouble starting it again, it had been running idle and then cut out. Haven't had time to look into the problem so had to tow it home, must be the only car that's passed an MOT and had to have been towed home! :?

Anyway I'm happy it's passed and hopefully soon I'll have it running and back on the road enjoying it. Needs plenty of work to get it where I want though I'll post progress of how I get on.

Thanks
Tom
Image



User avatar
Dr. Dub
Posts: 302
Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:28 pm
fill in the right answer: 15
Location: LV426

Re: MK1 Storm Passes MOT.. but....

Post by Dr. Dub » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:40 am

Looking forward to seeing progress with this. It could be the age old problem of crud in the fuel system causing you problems if the car has been stood. Result with the MOT though. Nice one.


Currently without a car (long story)
Previous rides. 2x 89 Scirocco GTs & 84 Storm

hermmy
Posts: 67
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:20 pm
fill in the right answer: 15

Re: MK1 Storm Passes MOT.. but....

Post by hermmy » Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:11 pm

Thanks Dr.Dub I think you might be right. Thought we had it sorted but obviously not lol,hoping this weekend to pull it out and clean it all out so it'll run fine. Just want to drive it now and give it a good run out!



steve bain
Posts: 630
Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:01 am

Re: MK1 Storm Passes MOT.. but....

Post by steve bain » Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:12 am

Try some carb cleaner into the intake. This can help fire it up and just getting it to fire can make it work after. Especially with old fuel and sparks etc.

What was it that made it struggle to start?


Image

My build thread:
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=14083

mark1gls
Posts: 3425
Joined: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:28 pm
fill in the right answer: 10
Location: Somerset

Re: MK1 Storm Passes MOT.. but....

Post by mark1gls » Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:31 pm

Good news it's got an MOT, the rear wheel bearing may just need a little nip up on the nut as its a fine point between being to lose and to tight and either way will kill the bearing in no time.
Starting problem is properly rust/dirt in the fuel tank and it may be blocked the pick up in the tank, have you looked in the fuel tank yet?


Mk1 78 Scirocco GLS 1.6 FR, weekend toy.
Mk1 88 Golf GTi cabriolet 1.8 DX. Daily drive.
Membership No. 323

mr.brown
Posts: 1440
Joined: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:13 pm
fill in the right answer: 15
Location: Surrey

Re: MK1 Storm Passes MOT.. but....

Post by mr.brown » Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:05 pm

I'm pretty sure that it says in the MOT manual that EVERY Scirocco must fail on rear wheel bearing play at least once :-D



User avatar
bengould
Posts: 805
Joined: Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:25 pm
fill in the right answer: 10
Location: Renfrew.

Re: MK1 Storm Passes MOT.. but....

Post by bengould » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:25 pm

All 3 cars I've owned have all had play in rear bearing as an advisory on every mot. Never had even a slight hum from a bearing though.

I think a lot of testers are so paranoid about loosing certification they just have to put something in in case of a spot check. Had "excessive use of underseal" on the girlfriends '69 beetle once.

Ben.


Image

hermmy
Posts: 67
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:20 pm
fill in the right answer: 15

Re: MK1 Storm Passes MOT.. but....

Post by hermmy » Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:05 pm

steve bain wrote:Try some carb cleaner into the intake. This can help fire it up and just getting it to fire can make it work after. Especially with old fuel and sparks etc.

What was it that made it struggle to start?
Hi Steve, I'll try this just to get it going so I can burn off the old fuel got to admit it did stink though hoping once it's going and given a good drive it might be a lot better!

The original owner did comment the tank might be contaminated and may have to come out, this is something I'll look at doing over the weekend.



hermmy
Posts: 67
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:20 pm
fill in the right answer: 15

Re: MK1 Storm Passes MOT.. but....

Post by hermmy » Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:09 pm

mark1gls wrote:Good news it's got an MOT, the rear wheel bearing may just need a little nip up on the nut as its a fine point between being to lose and to tight and either way will kill the bearing in no time.
Starting problem is properly rust/dirt in the fuel tank and it may be blocked the pick up in the tank, have you looked in the fuel tank yet?
I think you might be right here, as in my previous message the person I bought it off did mention this. We had it running fine and well for a day and thought it might not be this issue, but after hearing it conk out like it run out of fuel I think it might be something to do with the fuel tank.

I'll update everyone once I've had the chance to look. Can't believe it passed the MOT first time and I had to tow it home lol, did make me laugh if annoying I can't drive it at the moment



User avatar
go-for-it1
Posts: 463
Joined: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:42 pm
fill in the right answer: 10
Location: Blackburn

Re: MK1 Storm Passes MOT.. but....

Post by go-for-it1 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:51 am

Old fuel is a no no also. Unleaded, if left for long periods, loses its volatility. I have a mate who services petrol lawn mowers, every spring people bring them in saying "it won't start but was working fine when I put it away for the winter" he says he makes £60 servicing charge just by putting fresh fuel in and cleaning the plug. Most start first time then. I would syphon the old fuel out, clean all filters, disconnect fuel pipework and blow through with air from front to back then put a gallon of fresh fuel in to give it a fighting chance.


Image
1990 Mk2 GT2 in Pearlescent green.
2012 BMW 520d M Sport
2013 Golf TDi 140bhp
Member No 1241

hermmy
Posts: 67
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:20 pm
fill in the right answer: 15

Re: MK1 Storm Passes MOT.. but....

Post by hermmy » Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:35 pm

Thanks go-for-it, having another problem at the moment as it's not firing up I think the distributor ignition needs replacing as well.



hermmy
Posts: 67
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:20 pm
fill in the right answer: 15

Re: MK1 Storm Passes MOT.. but....

Post by hermmy » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:47 pm

This girl is playing hard to get! Spent to last couple of days trying to get her running again and narrowed it down to the rotor arm inside the dizzy. Quick trip to the local scrap yard managed to pick one up and replaced it. Finally put it all back together again after taking half the car apart to find the fault the fuel pump wouldn't work!!!

It was working perfectly fine before we took the fuel pump relay out, soon as we put the relay back in it decided not too!! Have tested the pump and that it all working and a few other bits, so it has to be the relay giving me problems. Oh and to add more insult to my misery after looking inside the tank there is shit inside that I'll have to deal with. Anyone else experienced this? Think the tank will have to come out and all be cleaned/replaced.



jimmy h
Posts: 348
Joined: Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:49 pm
fill in the right answer: 10
Location: Cumbria

Re: MK1 Storm Passes MOT.. but....

Post by jimmy h » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:05 am

Hi hermy, STOP. First things first, if you've found dirt in the fuel tank, don't do another thing until you've eliminated it. If any crap gets into the fine tolerances of the injection system - it's toast. This is probably the problem giving you issues with the fuel pump. And if it was me, I'd be changing the fuel filter now (after) making sure the tank is clean - as a precaution. The pump maybe sucking in crap, or pushing against a filter that is also clogged. Have you checked the state of your fuel filler neck/pipe? A common area (if badly corroded) to lead to crap in the tank.



the edmundator
Posts: 2928
Joined: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:34 pm
fill in the right answer: 10
Location: BEDFORD

Re: MK1 Storm Passes MOT.. but....

Post by the edmundator » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:48 pm

Wise words.


Register Member 829
--
1980 (1976) Mk1 Junior Cup Replica
1987 MK2 GTX

hermmy
Posts: 67
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:20 pm
fill in the right answer: 15

Re: MK1 Storm Passes MOT.. but....

Post by hermmy » Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:52 pm

jimmy h wrote:Hi hermy, STOP. First things first, if you've found dirt in the fuel tank, don't do another thing until you've eliminated it. If any crap gets into the fine tolerances of the injection system - it's toast. This is probably the problem giving you issues with the fuel pump. And if it was me, I'd be changing the fuel filter now (after) making sure the tank is clean - as a precaution. The pump maybe sucking in crap, or pushing against a filter that is also clogged. Have you checked the state of your fuel filler neck/pipe? A common area (if badly corroded) to lead to crap in the tank.
Hi Jimmy,
Thanks for the advice, you are right this has to be sorted, my eagerness to get it running should be put on hold until the tank is clean. It's hard not to get impatient as I want to do is drive it as this has been very limited (less than a mile) to the MOT place. :-D